From bingeing on after eight chocolates and constantly “starting her diet again on Monday” to having total food and diet freedom – Cheryll Wagner is a beautiful example of what’s possible with embodied eating. Listen in as Cheryll shares why she’s done with dieting, her journey as an embodied eater so far and her passion for helping other women find the same freedom!
About the Guest:
Cheryll Wagner is a Canadian Entrepreneur that has dabbled in several businesses since the early age of 13 years old. She has grown to love supporting other entrepreneurs as a consultant, mentor and friend. This year she has taken on a new role as the WeBC (Women Entrepreneurs of British Columbia) Ambassador which gives her more opportunities to support women in business.
As the CEO of her Operational Management Consulting & Systems firm, Business2Mobile, she is dedicated to helping business owners to get excited about working in their businesses again. Her goal is for them to spend less time worrying about the unknowns and give them the power and insight to make informed decisions on a daily basis so that when they leave work, they are not taking the burdens of being a business owner home with them. It really is about work life balance and helping them to achieve that.
She aspires to be a positive role model for women, not just in business but in life. She is excited to share what she has learned during her journey of embodied eating and vowing to NEVER EVER diet again!
About the Host:
Chanci Dawn is a non-diet certified nutritionist, mindset and embodiment coach whose soul’s purpose is to help women create the most wildly free and loving relationship with food and their bodies. After over 30 years of dieting and recovering from her own eating disorder Chanci is determined to help women find the same freedom she has through embodied eating and pleasurable living. Chanci believes that when you fall madly in love with yourself you’ll have the power to change your world and from there you can change the world around you making embodied eating a deep and powerful form of activism!
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This show is about freedom. Freedom from your constant struggle with food and letting the size of your thighs determine your worth. Join me weekly for no whole fat, unfiltered girlfriend kind of conversations that will inspire, teach and empower you. As we tune into our own body's wisdom and tune out of the diet industry lives, we can live our most radiant, pleasurable and fulfilled lives. My name is Chanci Dawn. I'm a non diet nutritionist embodiment and mindset coach. But most importantly, I'm a woman on a mission to grow a deeply connected and conscious relationship with food and my body. And I'm here inviting you to do the same. Let's go.Chanci Dawn:
Hello, dear one. Welcome to today's episode. I am so honored to introduce our guest today. She is an expert in embodied eating. And the reason why she is an expert is because she's living it. So Cheryll Wagner is her name and she was a business associate turned client turned dear friend, and I invited her to come on to share with you her journey. It's been about two years now her own journey with embodied eating. And it is it's so beautiful, listening to her listening to where she was where she is now. And all the in betweens all the challenges and the growth that she's been able to experience. And then she shares where she's actually heading next what her goals are, when when it comes to building this beautiful relationship with food and her body. So grab a tea or grab a coffee or get on your walking shoes, whatever you do, when you listen to podcasts that make you feel amazing. Do that and tune in in joy welcome, Cheryll,Cheryll Wagner:
thank you, I'm happy to be here.Chanci Dawn:
This is so great. You reached out to me around Christmas or sorry, around New Year's sharing, you're like, I'm not gonna go on a diet. I don't have that new year's resolution and all of this. So I didn't binge before and you know, all the patterns, and we celebrate that together. And then I'm like, You need to come on the podcast and share. So it's take, you know, life, life is life. And yeah, life happens. And now it's February. But I think this is really quite the ideal time because so many of our listeners here will have I have a lot of people who come and listen because they're like interested right in what can what what is embodied eating? And what can it do for me? And is it really possible to be free from this diet mentality, right? Or constantly trying to lose weight? So this whole wrestling match, can I really be free from it? And a lot of people will have had goals and your New Year's resolutions that they started in January, right? And it's like, now it's February. And a lot of people that I'm talking to people have fallen off the wagon, they're like, Oh, crap. Okay, once again, here I am. What What should I do? Should I hop back on Monday? Start again on Monday, right? Find something else? Or what what is this? Right? Maybe there is a better way? Exactly. So we have people like that. So if that's you welcome. And then we also have other women who are totally in their embodied journey, embodied eating journey right now. And I just really want this to inspire them. Keep going keep working towards freedom, because it's so possible. So Cheryl, you we've been friends for many, many years. And we used to sell diet shakes together.Cheryll Wagner:
We sure did. Not on that on that train.Chanci Dawn:
We were on that train. And that's where I met you. And it's just really neat, because we both just saw the light. And you reached out to me and we started coaching together. And you have been so instrumental also in supporting me and helping me create the it tastes like freedom program. Because when you like listeners, if you join the program, Cheryll created the whole membership site, like , she's so amazing and so talented. And it's amazing. Like we've had so much fun working together with this. And Cheryll has a lot of input into what it tastes like freedom has really evolved and flourished into so thank you for that. And yeah, so we started coaching together and tell me before, actually, let's start Why did you want to start coaching together to heal your relationship with food and your body? Let's start there. And then we can talk about your journey towards that and then coming to Where are you at now? And where are you going?Cheryll Wagner:
All right? Well, we can start by when I first started coaching with you, if you remember, it actually wasn't really about the embodied eating, it was about I suffered a incredible loss. And I knew I was spiraling. And I needed some help, because I was eating all the things. But I also wasn't willing to do the embodied eating thing yet. I didn't know really anything about it, but I knew I needed help. So I reached out to you. And it wasn't until then that we actually really belt and built up an amazing friendship and relationship. We were, you know, colleagues, co workers, I don't know what you call it when we're in the same company. Associate. Associate assessment. Yes, yeah. And I think you and I, both over the years have just been like this, this isn't the right thing. For me, this can't be it. This is not the way I want to live my life. And I spent many years dieting I spent, you know, when, when I was, I think in Grade Two, my dad called me as a joke just to tun Tessa. And I can tell you what, that influenced me, throughout my entire, like, extremely vulnerable years, as a young girl from that time on, I started looking up my belly, and I wasn't a big girl, but my dad did is as a harmless joke, but it was actually very damaging. And, you know, it's not just his words, but it's the whole society and how you know how women are so focused in how many young girls it's affecting earlier and earlier and earlier. And I've had a passion for a long time to really stop that. And I didn't really know how to go about doing it. So reaching out to you was the absolute best thing that I could have done, because I didn't really know the path on which to travel in order to accomplish it. Because, you know, I tried Weight Watchers, that was actually the one I was doing, when I contacted you at right, you know, I was successful at it, you know, I lost some weight, it's it never stays off. And but I didn't want to spiral when it came back on. You know, like, I knew it was a cycle and it was going to come back on again. So it was finding a way to be happy exactly where I am to be able to look at my thighs in the near shake them watch the move and smile instead of going. No, I'm curvy. And you know, I would not put myself in the obese category. But the body mass index shirt doesChanci Dawn:
throw that out. But yeah, exactly. It's so insulting,Cheryll Wagner:
right? It doesn't take into account anything, you know, your body structure, your shop structure, your muscle mass, like it doesn't take into account on anything like that. And it really sets us up for failure. So having other tools to be able to refer to and work with has been life changing for me. And it's funny, because for the first year, because we've been I've been doing the embodied eating since September of 2021. So it's been like a year and a half. But it really wasn't until and sorry, Chris Christmas 2021. I decided I wasn't going to make that new year's resolution as well. Yeah, but it didn't have the same freedom as this year stick. Because I've been, you know, a year long now where I haven't dieted. And I haven't spent any time thinking about feeling guilty about what I was going to eat and how I was, you know what I was doing what I was putting in my mouth, and it's not that I haven't benched. It's not that I haven't eaten all the things at times, it's just I'm gentler with myself. I'm compassionate, you know, and, and I also take an inner look going, Oh, you're Wolfing those things down pretty bad. What's going on for you? Like, is there something else going on? That's kind of causing this, this feeling of need to, you know, consume all the things?Chanci Dawn:
Yeah, thanks for bringing that up, too, as it really is, like in this process. There's a lot of people who are like, Oh, I'm doing it wrong, because they have that diet mentality that there's a right and there's wrong. But with embodied eating, it's so gentle in everything, like if you have if you eat more than you were hungry for and if you eat past the point of pleasure, and if you're finding that you're in there fog eating everything in your pantry or storm eating whatever, then it's just an opportunity to go deeper and to let go. Yeah, to go inwards.Cheryll Wagner:
Yeah. Because, yes, I am an emotional eater. And so when I have some things going on, I will eat all the things and there's just no guilt with it anymore. And I don't I don't step on the scale the next day to beat myself up and you know, like, I just I just don't do that anymore. because it, it fails me, it gives me no reward. It doesn't make me feel good about myself. So just stop doing it.Chanci Dawn:
You know? And yeah, so let's look there. Okay, so let's look at the difference like the before emotionally eat. So you what, let's run us through like a scenario that before Cheryl, so you would have some emotions that you were experiencing that were hard to feel okay, so go from there, what would that look like for you? WhyCheryll Wagner:
would I would eat all the things like let's let I think we'll talk about Christmas time like because Christmas time fair as always it was a trigger, right? Because you know mid November I'm like, okay, I can eat the things I'm going to eat the things I'm going to eat all the things and I'll start again January 1, right? And I have to make sure I eat all the things because come January 1, that's it. So I had over eat in that whole time. Like as I'm trying to eat all the things so they're no longer in the house anymore. And, and, and I would you know, like, I polished off I think I told you I bought five sleeves, which were three boxes, each of these after eight cans, they're spectacular average chocolates, they're my favorite. And I polished off 14 of those boxes before Christmas. Some of those were supposed to go on the stocking, never made it. And I would feel so guilty. And but I did it because I knew they had to be out of my house for January, January 2, because January 1, we always do a big dinner and all that stuff. So it was always January 2 for us. And it caused some incredible stress for me and I would put on the 10 pounds 1015 pounds at Christmas. And it's not because you're Christmas eating. It's because that that fear mentality that you know, January 2 is coming. And I've got to start over that diet. You know, I have to start over in January because that was just the cycle. And it was a continuous cycle. And it had been my cycle since I was a teenager.Chanci Dawn:
Yeah. And then you're brought beer. Brat brain is like getting all the things because you're never gonna happen again, actually believing wait till nextCheryll Wagner:
Christmas. Right? Right, right. So last year, I bought the boxes of after eights. And normally they would have had to have been gone for January 2. But I decided no, I'm not dieting this year, if I want to have them in January or February or March, I'm going to have them. And what ended up happening is those chocolates lasted me for six months. Because I didn't have to eat all the things I didn't feel like I needed to finish it off. So I could start again start over in the new year or on the next Monday or whichever. So it has helped me exponentially in just regulating my eating, you know, like just not feeling pressured in one way or another. So that's been extremely helpful. Yeah,Chanci Dawn:
that's the beauty of permission. And there's so many people who will come in, they're like, oh, but if I give myself permission, I'll never stop. And I remember you having that same concern. Absolutely. But your your experience hand like first hand experience with the after aid is it's completely opposite.Cheryll Wagner:
Yeah, it's completely opposite. And, you know, like, I have some leftover from Christmas now. And you know, they were sitting on my counter, because I opened them up yesterday, and I had a couple. And normally if I'm going to be putting it away, I'll be like, oh, I'll just stuffed two of them in my mouth as I'm putting them away. But I didn't do that today. You know, I just put them in back into the pantry. And at some point, I'll go back in and enjoy a few more. Yeah. So it's it's been really empowering to just regulate and not be focused on my diet, not be focused on food as a bad thing. But as that sounds really good, I think I'm going to eat that today. And not care. I haven't calorie counted since we started this thing. And that's been wonderful.Chanci Dawn:
So much knowing that right and your body, body responds, it absolutely responds. So in the past, let's let's go back into the emotional eating. And I love the example of Christmas. And then also, so what would the pattern look like before and I know but let's, let's show that. So it's like, okay, you're having any motion? Right? I don't, oh, this is too hard. And we've worked a lot on feeling the emotions on processing the motions, but also we're human and sometimes we're not wanting to we're at some capacity and it's like I've had enough and sometimes I just want to eat Doritos. Absolutely. Right. Yeah. And like forCheryll Wagner:
years, we suffered a lot of deaths. And the latest one was a young man that I you know, considered an adopted son to myself not legally but he was he was very special to me. And so even to just think about it, I just I couldn't think about it. I would push it deep down and to help me push it deep down I added cookies, or whatever it was I could stuff into my mouth you know salty sugar or whichever like all the all the sugary and salty foods, I wasn't thinking salads at that time, and I would push it down and push it down and push it down. But it you know, it always bubbles back up, right? But instead of actually just, you know, feeling bad about eating and eating all the things and like, oh, sorry to get on Monday and just getting really angry with myself and saying like, why did you do that you're you know, you can't control yourself. Your you know your slob? Or, you know, our Yeah, no willpower, you're a failure, all those negative things that come along with the dieting mentality, it was just like, oh, what's coming up for you? Like you're you're really pushing things away today? Is there something that maybe you can think about? And maybe you can deal with instead of actually just pushing away? So I've been trying to feel things a little bit more. And it doesn't, it's not always convenient to feel the things when I need to. But yeah, it's I've really started to pay attention my behaviors of why rather than going, Oh, you're failing and you're dying. It's like, Oh, why? What's coming up for you? Yeah, no, what's what's going on? Oh, I'm PMS saying like, I had a hysterectomy several years ago, but I still PMS. I still get those. You know, where I want to eat all the chocolate, and there's no controlling it. It's like, oh, yeah, it's that day, I gotta be close. And then suddenly, it makes sense. And, you know, instead of getting angry with myself, I'm just like, oh, enjoy it. You know, and but I do. So this year, my focus because I basically, the last bit I was really focused on just like the permission, giving myself permission, not analyzing too much and not going through all the steps and like the weather, your fog eating, binge eating, whichever, like, I haven't gone through them. Yeah, fog and storm. And so I would definitely recognize, Oh, I definitely store meeting but I wouldn't go far into it. So this year, my goal is to really look at okay, what is it? What kind of eating? Am I doing? Why am I you know, like, Am I really giving myself permission is this because it's delicious, and I enjoying it? And you know, I want it or is it because I'm pushing something else away. So I'm definitely working more on that this year, I kind of felt I needed to work on one area at a time and that permission piece was a big one for me. And, and that goes with the exercise too. Because exercise for me always came with oh, I'm on a big diet, boy, counting calories, oh, I have to track this, I have to track my exercise, I have to track how much I burned. Like all that stuff. So I actually really limited what I did for exercise. So I wouldn't throw myself back into my loop of dieting, and you know that, that focus on the body in a negative way. So this year is my goal to really pay attention to those, you know, that fog eating and that store meeting and, and to actually include some exercise into my regiment now because I feel like I'm ready that it's safe for me to actually, you know, incorporate that in there.Chanci Dawn:
eautiful. And I really honored that, you know, everyone's journey is different. And usually, clients, I was gonna say guest because at the retreat center that I coach out, we call our clients guests, I was gonna say guest, so everyone's a guest. But yeah, usually clients will have to start with permission, because that is a big hill, you know, to go and, and it goes from like, okay, like quasi permission, you know, to like this counterfeit. Oh, am I really giving myself permission here and what's actually happening until it kind of clicks it goes off? Right? This is what true permission feels like. And you know, so there's a lot of exploring at first and a lot of just that curiosity with loads of compassion, to be able to really support that permission, and you have done it beautifully. And I love that now you're like, Okay, I'm giving myself true permission, I know what that feels. I embody that freedom of that. And now, where do I go from here in this journey? Exactly.Cheryll Wagner:
And you know, why wait, didn't change that much in this whole year where I was doing what I wanted to do, where I was giving myself permission to eat all the things. My weight hasn't fluctuated by five pounds, you know, so it's, it's very obvious that this is exactly the way we're supposed to be doing it.Chanci Dawn:
Totally. Absolutely. And especially, you know, when you look at that, gotta get it all in before I start my diet, that creates so much more like food intake, then emission does like people, once you kind of get that into your brain, it's like, oh, wow, this is obvious, you know, but it's how you're doing it, and you start really seeing the difference. And then, you know, that beauty of the pleasure getting into that, and like really going into the different types of eating, and it's all about that relationship and honoring. So do you feel that you have a better relationship with your vessel with your body? ThanCheryll Wagner:
Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah. Well, for myself, I have fibromyalgia. So, you know, I really pay attention to what my body is doing. And I, you know, have some medical issues and things like that, but I never really thought about taking, you know, I took care of my body as far as the nutrients and stuff goes, but but the mental health as far as the dieting and things like that I wasn't taking care of my body that I wasn't being very compassionate to my body when I was saying, No, you can't have that. You can't have that you're stupid. You know why, like,Chanci Dawn:
you're not good enough? You're not good enough to be able to have that. Yeah, yeah.Cheryll Wagner:
Exactly. Oh, you've got to go and spend an hour doing this crazy exercise before you can have that. And, you know, like, it's just, it's a model setup to fail. And I'm sure there's some hardcore people that can be successful at it, but I wonder how happy they really are. Because I like being able to go out and eat what I want, and you know, have a good time and go over to a friend's and not be counting calories. I was like, Oh, I'm gonna be going there today. So I'm gonna miss eating this, this, this and this today, in hopes to be able to have this tomorrow. And, you know, I just, I got tired of living like that.Chanci Dawn:
Yeah, yeah, it really is like a prison because it's a prison. That actually doesn't work. And that's the thing that's so hard, you know, because we're like, so good. So good on our diets, and you or lifestyle plans, whatever the intentional thing we're using to lose weight, it's like, on track on track on track, and then you fall off for whatever reason, and then you feel like such a failure when it's actually absolutely designed to fail in the first place.Cheryll Wagner:
Exactly. It is. It's actually exactly like our correction system. Right? Because most people get out and they go back in, like a diet, you go out. Yeah, back in, you know, you'reChanci Dawn:
you have this is where anything is rehab towards actual true freedom and moving forward apps. Exactly. That is so true. Wow, that's right.Cheryll Wagner:
Yeah, so it's exciting, I am looking forward to, you know, building more of the skills and helping more women. And I, you know, I've been sharing with my friends, and they're probably getting a little tired of me saying, I'm never dieting again, all the time. And I, you know, tag you in the different posts and things and I just, I really want my friends to also experience this freedom, because it is, it's life changing. I have some friends that, you know, were super successful doing some dieting plan, and now they're putting the weight back on and they're extremely depressed, they're really struggling. And it's not just because of their weight, but it's definitely playing a role. And, you know, I really want them to be to be free. I want them to see the freedom and to feel the freedom because it's been absolutely life altering for me.Chanci Dawn:
And you made such a good point there. It's not, it actually isn't about the weight. It's about the story that the patriarchy has lied to us and has told us in for, for so long. All of these lies, that what body our bodies mean, and how our bodies have to look. And it's all wrapped up in absolute power and control and weight when we really get to the heart of where diet started from. And I want to do I want to do an episode on that. Like it is absolutely to take away our own power. You know, when we're so focused on our weight thinking that that's the most important thing, then we're quiet. Right then we're not like ruffling feathers, they're not going out and being purposeful to the degree that we really deserve to be in our lives. You know, so this is like, it's so much more than Oh yes, you don't need to be OSI zero and in order to be valuable, it's like who are you as a woman? What do you want to do with this one precious life let's take all of this energy that you're throwing energy, money time all of this that you're throwing into the diet industry, the lies and let's put it into like, Ah, this freedom What do you want to build? Who do you want? Exactly? Well, ifCheryll Wagner:
and for myself, you know, I've taken on the CEO role of our company and I didn't want to be focusing on me and you know, my my weight and dieting and all that stuff while I'm trying to run a company and trying to grow a business. You know, it's it's just it's Stupid to spend so much time thinking about those things when there's so many other things you want to talk about, you know, women being quiet. While we're so concerned about our weight, instead of actually focusing on the things that matter. Think about all the things that we could have done if we weren't focused on dieting, learning all the things about dieting, and you know, all these things I think about all the time I wasted, and all the jobs I didn't apply for, because of my weight and how I looked in, you know, things like that. And I just think of how many women feel that way that, oh, I can't apply for that job, or I can't be in this position. Because, you know, I just don't have that self confidence in my body image, you know, and that's, that's a that's a big thing. And that 100% Patriarchy, it has contributed to that. And dismantling it is our goal.Chanci Dawn:
Absolutely. Yeah. is so true. Like that is where you know, really healing your relationship with food in your body is such a powerful form of advocacy, right? Like, what is important here. And also, the thing that I love about this is that when we get past that, like ultimate permission, we're eating all the things like you're past this now. And you're honoring, and you're like, Okay, eating for pleasure, and I don't need to eat at all and, you know, pass that initial kind of scary part, which it's okay, I'll hold your hand through it when you're ready listener, right. But it's like when we're past that, and then you're on that other side. It's all about vitality and radiance and health and honoring your body like what does she really need to feel so good, energetic, alive, you know, we can have great sleep and wake up rested, because we're taking care of ourselves. And we're moving our body and pleasure, right? Like that. is the ultimate freedom, be able to tune in and have this relationship with her where you're like, Heck, yeah, girl, I love you. How do you want to be taken care of, you know, and then today, like, what sounds really amazing to you. And okay, this is, you know, it's so it's so fun, this way of living, and you know, relating with food and with your body. And then from this place of this freedom and vitality, then you get to you have so much more to give, right? Like, it's not just about taking your energy from the diet industry slides and putting it towards what you really want. It's like, then you actually have the energy you actually have that like, that study asked that capacity. Exactly. It really is. It's like that switch over to who Okay, let what is here, what is this freedom to like, holy crap, I never believe this. This I could not believe that this type of life was possible in how I feel. Yeah, exactly.Cheryll Wagner:
Yeah. No, it's, it's, it's just been amazing. The difference that it's made, and even for, like, with my sons, as well, like just talking to them about, you know, are you eating just because you're bored, or, you know, like, figuring out like, you're kind of binging there, what's going on, and, you know, COVID is hard on all of them. And there's a lot of depression and mental health stuff that all these kids are going through. And well, people in general, and I think a lot of people are feeling that, you know, guilt and you know, from binging and eating their feelings and all that so I think it's a perfect time to really, for people to step in and and you know, find discover a new way to do things because there is a better wayChanci Dawn:
of dieting. Yeah, and that whole compassion. I mean, that's obviously a pillar of this whole program, but it's like the compassion part of taking, you know, your small self in your hands and going of course, this has been excuse my French, but this has been a fucked up few years. Of course, you've struggled Of course you have and how can I love you? You know, getting into that curious part. How can I love you and nurture you through this right yourself? Your soul, your brain, your body? Yeah.Cheryll Wagner:
Oh, no, I've just been finding like 2022 was kind of the year of, okay, we're kind of out of the pandemic, and it's just like, Okay, I might dip my toe outside a little bit. And, you know, do we didn't really attend to many events and didn't do any networking, you know, like, still really kept to ourselves and our small little group of people and 2023 is kind of my way of just like, Okay, it's time to like, step back into society and get more involved and get back into, you know, living again, because Fibrox is kind of on hold and seeing what was going to happen. So it's nice to actually you know, be stepping more towards normal it'll never ever, you know, we were be gone or whichever but it's nice to actually be getting back to a little bit of normal whatever the new normal is, because It's not it's not ever going to be the same. But it's time to build up what the new normal is and just really enjoy our life and help get rid of dieting. Yes, Nurse like seriously.Chanci Dawn:
The New Normal needs contact Chanci,Cheryll Wagner:
for It Tastes like freedom get on board and actually do this because it will change your life. And if you're in it, way to go, I'm proud of you. And I think you just need to keep going. Even on those bad days. There was days where I was like, ah, you know, I've put on five pounds I should probably aren't feeling bloated. I should, you know, do a cleanse day or whichever. And I'm, like, know what, it's not what would use this dosage? What would chance deep down you do so it's been it's been?Chanci Dawn:
I love that. And that, let's bring it back to you. What would my higher self do? What would my highest self do? Right? Who knows what is right for me and led me to this in the first place. SoCheryll Wagner:
yeah, I love that. Yeah. Yeah. And that and that's the biggest thing, right? It's, it's knowing that it's okay. And you know, your feelings. It's okay to eat your feelings. But knowing that you're eating your feelings, that's what's important. And have passion in it, you know, your awarenessChanci Dawn:
of it. And I did a whole podcast like I did a whole episode on emotional eating, because there's a lot of confusion in that right. Like, never do it. And of course we want you like to be able to be emotionally free. And part of this is definitely feeling and looking at the opportunity when you do want to fog or storm eat to go what's really going on here and then also to give your permission sometimes just to frickin do it right, exactly.Cheryll Wagner:
You know what, I am not dealing with this right now. I am eating all the things and I am not going to feel guilty about it.Chanci Dawn:
Yeah. Okay. And the point of that is then you do this and then you're like, Okay, compassion. Now I'm moving forward instead. Exactly. Now, the whole week has blown. And then I'm going to start on Monday and I'm just going to eat all the things and do all you know, good all the buffets, whatever it is, those were the differences. It's like, okay, I'm gonna give myself this and then I'm not going to hold guilt and shame. I'm gonna get curious and then move forward and freedom and contact my coach Chanci, to figure out what's going on here.Cheryll Wagner:
Yeah, that's right. I think the funny things is lino, I've done us like how I've been cheated. And then I'm like, Well, that happened. That was a whole lot. Next, you know, like, there's just no feeling towards it, like no negativity, not nothing, right? Like, just neutral. It's all just neutral. All food is neutral. Right. And so I think that is, you know, that's a big lesson is there's no good food, there's no bad food. It's just, it's neutral. And once you can really embrace that, it makes a big difference.Chanci Dawn:
Oh, Cheryll, thank you so much for sharing. This is just, I love it so much. And so you've shared so many little pearls of wisdom. Do you have one last pearl of wisdom that you'd like to share with the listeners something that they can take home, write down, put in their purse?Cheryll Wagner:
Well, we all have things, we all have lives that are chaotic, we all have stressors that you know, put us over the edge. And if your stressors are, you know, contributing to binge eating, and just really, you know, what you feel is losing control. And where you feel guilty after doing it that I honestly, I highly recommend reaching out to you because it is it's it's nothing to feel guilty about. You're able to give people tools that help. And it's it's made a world of difference for me. I know, I know, I know, you want wisdom from me, but really my wisdom is to reach out to you because I like that. Yeah, it's it's fabulous wisdom. Because it really does make a difference. And you know, we can try to do it on our own. But not having a cheerleader in your corner when you have been dieting off and on your entire adult life and probably in your teens as well. You need you need an outside cheerleader to be able to help you get through those tough times. And with your program, your group program that you're starting and your membership site that we've built together. We can put a lot more cool things in there. But you know, like we've got lots to do. And I I'm looking forward to seeing a lot of women's lives change with it.Chanci Dawn:
Yeah, me too. This is so great. Well, thank you, my dear. And if you would honestly need any sort of tech work contact Cheryll? Belt or even though an app for work is unbelievable. So you definitely want to look her up. What's your business name again,Cheryll Wagner:
it's business to mobile software solutions or business to mobile.com is where you can find us. I'm in the process of actually revamping our site because it's complicated tech speak and we're trying to simplify it to more encompass our consulting side of building a business and growing a business. So that's what I've been working on in the last little while and it's exciting lots of growth and learning with my lovelyChanci Dawn:
women in business who are having the energy to put towards it because they're no longer dieting when you're actually be. Thank you. I'veCheryll Wagner:
actually became the BBC, which is the women entrepreneurs of British Columbia, the ambassador for the Prince George in northern BC area. So that's very exciting. Yeah, and it's helping women entrepreneurs, right. So this is, you know, right up my alley being able to help women so Oh, fantastic. Goosebumps.Chanci Dawn:
Love it. Keep up the good work, my friend. Okay, thank you for coming on. And as always listener, please share this episode with a friend that you know, needs to hear this beautiful wisdom from Cheryl, and we can absolutely change lives together. So let's do it. We deserve it, ladies. Okay, till next time, bye bye.